Conversatorium V

Well, well, well… more chanllenging comments came our way and we must continue with this Conversatorium.

We normally do this intense exchange of ideas with our backers, but since there are so very few and we still need to encourage a few more to become enthusiastic supporters of a tremendous film series, I’ll expound on the comments.

Cruxlover24: Will we have scenes of the warrior fighting with some soldiers before she’s put to suffer?

Talissa the Warrior is kind of a legend because she kills Roman soldiers.

In the first film, Taia The Slave, Talissa kills the two Roman soldiers that stay behind to continue torturing Taia who is suffering a slow, agonizing death, up on the cross after everyone else is gone.

In the second film, Ide, The Egyptian Priestess, Ide is left to die on her cross, two soldiers are commanded to stay behind. Talissa kills them too, and after killing them she goes after Decius who is on his way to exile.

Those killings and the many more that happened before, make Talissa the hated terror of the Romans.

In the third film Talissa goes after Decius, she doesn’t know his faithful soldiers are on their way to meet with him to help him out.

Talissa begins fighting Decius, the soldiers arrive and after a viciously violent fight they managed to capture her, make her suffer, a lot, then Decius takes her to the Governor as a trophy worthy of a reward and to regain his place in the Roman legions.

All beaten, tortured, wounded, Talissa is sentenced to be tortured on the cross.

Some of the details of what will happen to her, how, etc, will be shared with our Generous Backers.

Awesome, will we have some shootings of her practicing or about the rehearsals for the fight scenes?
Cruxlover24

We might have some clips of Dani training and practicing for the fights. Again, we’ll share the Making Of clips with our supporters.

Here’s a music video we produced a while ago, Jac was the big producer while Erix was the director. The drummer is our cinematographer in many films. The video contains some sword fights.

Margot: “But there are lessons learned in every production and in the case of Seditiosa one lesson is to try not to shoot naked women crucifixion scenes in far away locations where the winds of June and July are too strong and the cold is unbearable… for them… not to mention the bright light of the sun that is too harsh and it burns the skin without being warm.”
Amen – so don’t miss the window of weather for this project.
wanttoknowmore

We are taking the weather into account to set up the production dates for Crucified Four. We could’ve postponed Seditiosa until August 2023 but we would’ve have a lynch mob at our door.

We worked in a few of films on those difficult conditions before, Maleficarum, Justine, Olalla, to name three of the big ones, and a few others, one with Amy, and another with Mila shot in the same location of Maleficarum, but the scenes under those harsh conditions were ONE day shoots. No big suffering for the victims of the inquisition because of the wind and sun, well, maybe a bit.

With regard to lack of response to your script excerpt – I do not believe it is from a lack of interest, more from there wasn’t a lot there in terms of the overall. I am sure if excerpts from some more “meaty” elements are published, the response would be better.
wanttoknowmore

I don’t have the meaty details at this point. I guess I will be getting more of what will happen in the film as the plans for the production progresses; however, I don’t think it’s wise to do a lot of spoiling.

In the case of Seditiosa most of the story was a given, by the concept itself, a film about a Female Christ. Every one in the known universe knows all the graphic details of that story, regardless of their religious persuasion.

The only ‘surprise‘ in the case of Seditiosa was how the well known saga of Christ in its female version would be told in the film, what elements would be used and so on. Would there be a nativity scene? What about the sermon of the mount, all of it, with thousands of people sharing the fish and the bread.

Because the Christ story is so well known and everyone has their own version up in their heads of how that story should be told, contributed to why some expectations were not met, and I’m not referring only to the little bit of dialogue up on the cross,.

It seems from your last post there was at least one other request for dialogue from the cross. Might want to keep that in mind in this next 4 films.

What I said before, if I remember well, is that there was the intention of more dialogue from the cross, like the parts when Simonne talks to Sol. More of something like that, but the conditions were not favorable. In the next four films there will be some exchanges from the cross, but not like in Seditiosa.

In the case of Crucified Four there’s only ONE person being crucified, and the only people she can exchange words or curses is with the people crucifying her. In the case of Taia the Runaway Slave, she will have some dialogue with Ide, because there’s something that connects them which I cannot reveal.

In the case of Ide, there will be some nasty exchanges with Paulina, who will be actively torturing her in revenge for what the priestess did to her.

Talissa the warrior will exchange curses with the soldiers torturing her and, of course, with Decius.

Technical recommendation – If you can’t tie the legs of the crux victims for safety reasons, need to help someone hold them during the feet nailing. Nobody is going just stand there during that.

In Crucified Four each of the crucifixions will be totally different. Where and how the feet are positioned will be part of the difference. In one case the feet will be nailed behind the post. I’m not telling which of the Crucified Four will suffer that.

In another case the feet will be nailed to the sides, with the legs open wide, in another they will be nailed to a crossbar, legs extended as wide as possible… and I can’t say anymore.

I was going to suggest this as a money safer as a way to combine the first and last film, but since you are going forward with all four, my suggestion for the Simonne film – Have her slave crucified with her. Paulina attends the crux site, and speaks to Simonne to watch as her slave is crucified, when tell her it is time to join her. A lot of the Seditiosa dialogue can be used here with minor modifications – Simmonne telling Paulina her crimes will be revealed and justice done just before she is raised up. The slave states she was tortured into implicating Simmonne and ask for forgiveness. The “not to blame” sequence would fit in well here.

Sabina’s story is, of course, connected to the fate of her slave/servant, who she treats kindly. We don’t have the actress that will play that role yet, so we don’t know what the actress will be willing to do and how capable she will be under the harsh conditions she’ll be forced to endure.

There will be some dialogue between them when Sabina is crucified. What happens to the slave and how is something I cannot reveal at this point. I think Jac prefers to leave that for the film itself and to be revealed when people are watching.

There will definitely be dialogues between Sabina and Paulina, that’s a must but that’s something that I will not be discussing either because it will be kind of a spoiler as well. Maybe in private, maybe.

Instead of dying, Simmonne can be rescued. Investigation by other authorities reveals Paulina’s plot, and soldiers and centurion arrive to arrest Paulina (a prequel to any follow-up film of her crucifixion) , and take Simmonne down from the cross (I believe a couple folks wanted to see that). The slave, vis Roman law of a death in the household, is left to die. Simmonne protests, but the slave says she deserves this for putting her lady though this and bids farewell.

Paulina’s plot is obvious to everyone around her, that will be clear. It is a grab for power, so her husband can become the governor, which he does, and since she controls him totally, the power is now hers.

Since there’s no character, that I know of, willing to challenge her and make her life miserable, she wins… so far. But things can happen, of course.

As far as Sabina surviving her crucifixion, that’s alway possible, I guess. That’s another issue that will not be discuss here.

As far as people wanting to see the bodies lowered down from the cross, it’s something that would happen AFTER they are dead. I think what those people want is to see the dead body on the ground. Something like Christ after he’s taken down after he dies. That is possible in the case of Taia and/or Ide because the story has room for that.

There will be a lot more to discuss next week, this is it for now. I encourage everyone to contribute NOW. If we raise 1000 in the next five days, we will be moving forward to the production in a big way. We need to close a couple of deals.

We still have the offer of the first TEN that contribute 100 in the next TEN days will have a GIFT!

It’s 8 now, and 6 days left!