A Cross In The Horizon?

Jac had an exchange with Amy about the up and coming fund raising campaign for Seditiosa. During their exchange of ideas Jac commented something like:

I feel like things are not progressing but then they do. I think we were more relaxed in past productions, even the most difficult ones, taking our sweet time to bring things to a good point. (…) I’m also working on the Seditiosa campaign. I re-wrote the entire pitch, after you gave me your comments and impressions. It happened the same way as with the script 69. I took a different look at the pitch, not only the one for the video, but also the text I’m writing to put in the IndieGoGo page and I went wild. It’s very different from how it was before. The goal is to raise 25,000 (…).
Basically, I’m going through the pains of conception, which are bearable.

That exchange came after a day of work for Jac and Simonne, a rehearsal for 69 Année Erotique in which the future Female Christ plays the role of Galatea, a 1969 hippie girl who sings a lot of 1969 songs, and she also plays Mina, a singer in an all female metal band in the 21st century.

One of the songs from 1969 is, of course, Gainbourg’s 69 Année Erotique. That’s the song Simonne and Jac rehearsed last Monday, and Jac recorded it. He sent Amy a link for her to see it. I haven’t heard any comments yet. Some privileged people will get to see Jac and Simonne singing to each other in that video… and everyone will enjoy seeing them in that scene full of nostalgia in the film itself.

Margot said: Another point raised was, for some reason, the making of 69 as if that was a bad thing.
Thanks for the update Margot. I think this kind of more detailed info on the status and projected timeline for the Seditiosa film will very much aid in getting contributions once the IndieGoGo page opens.
To all regarding the Patreon link – you CAN just do a short term commitment and cancel any time, so please do not be put off thinking otherwise.
Finally to Margot – my comment with regard to the 69 film was not intended to disparage it in any way, It was more of a ill-conceived rant to your comment about not seeing the support or interest for the Seditosa project rather than any knock on the film itself.
wanttoknowmore

Jac and his team are working on getting everything ready to start shooting 69 Année Erotique very soon. They will have the shooting schedule next week, after he completes the pitch for Seditiosa. That’s his main task right now, apart from all those meetings and rehearsals.

There are meetings this week, more rehearsals, the moving of things, transporting of other things, like furniture, getting the set ready for the production and so much more, including the testing of some special make up to transform Jac from Jekyll to Hyde, it should be fun.

Another task in the team’s busy schedule is the premiere of Pygmalion for mid November. We’re hoping the movie theaters will confirm the dates before the middle of next week. The plan is, as always was, to open in at least 5 cities.

Delayed by many years, this release will happen one way or another, and, as by Amy’s demand, before the end of this year. So, November it is. We might have a special zoom premiere for the world discussions with the talented people involved, that is Amy and Jac and some of the cast.

69 Année Erotique is practically a sequel to Pygmalion, with most of the same characters appearing again. One of them is Mila, who plays Vera and Eliza in Pygmalion, she returns to play the same character, Vera and her fictional interpretation of Mary, the faithful secretary of Dr. Jekyll and a violinist in the metal band where Lucy/Mona (Dani) play the guitar and Mina (Simone) sings.

And finally, a bit from the ongoing debate around the future production of Seditiosa:

With all the talk about “to loincloth or not to loincloth”, with some for one and some against, (I am “for”, but very torn between both camps personally), and with this being such a split and evenly torn issue of taste, might I very humbly suggest that there actually is uniquely in this case a potentially perfect solution. A loincloth can be worn, during the whipping and carrying and nailing, and during the early time on the cross, then removed from the victims after some time crucified so their latter time on the cross is naked. Simple. Just trying to help.
Crucified Life

I think I too suggested that earlier. Totally agree that wpould be a great way to go. My comment on the loincolth is more focused on the scene not getting too watered down to make the film more “marketable” (read Marytr),.
wanttoknowmore

Yes, I understand where you are coming from. Thanks for your clarification. For me, I would really like to see a real and genuine Female Christ crucifixion scene. Genuine and Roman. She undergoes crucifixion like a man would have to, we see everything, boobs whip marks sweat and blood, we hear her involuntary moans when raised, and nailed and hear labored conversation. We get a range of views and it is largely in real time.
Crucified Life

The two more discussed issues are the loin cloths and the blood. The arguments go in favor and against of either too little, too much, on, off. Ultimately, what happens during the production will be decided by the director, the capacity of the cast, the circumstances, the creative demands and a series of factors that will come into play as it always happens.

The loin cloths will be there until they are taken off. The when, the how, the why are the kind of things that I know keep Jac awake at night and invade his brain and probably his groin in the wee hours of the morning when his cats begin to make sure he’s not dead.

The blood is part of the deal, how much tearing off the skin does a lash cause and how does it look after 39 lashes of the multiple strands scourge have fallen on their bodies will be as realistic as possible. If to the cruel lashing you add a crown of thorns, then it’s kind of very bloody, don’t you think?

The Passion Of The Christ Controversy Explained — **Gibson’s take on the crucifixion**

I don’t think Jac’s vision matches Mel Gibson’s… but who knows?

In Monxa Mala Simonne looks almost like the picture above but even tough some complain the she has too much blood on her, I don’t see that. I can see her nipples, very clearly. As a matter of fact, the blood used is not as extreme as some people say. I guess the blood issue will remain a matter of opinion.

With all due to respect, you have been arguing that the flogging scenes and blood need to be reduced. And I see Margot very earnestly engaging with your concerns. While I don’t wish dismiss those concerns and also want these crux scenes to be as good as they can possibly be, I would urge you to not conflate “watering down” with not matching your tastes.
Iconoclast12

During the rehearsals, Jac and his three damsels in future crux distress have a chance to discuss those scenes. The young women are very curious as to how long it will take to shoot those scenes. Simonne in particular, who had to be on her Cross in Monxa Mala for long stretches of time while the others were tortured and tortured some more, commented that her position was extremely uncomfortable and painful and the time it took to shoot those scenes were only a couple of hours a day, but for many days. Jac told her that in Seditiosa they won’t spend weeks shooting the crucifixion scenes, it will all happen in about three days… but many hours per day, not just two. They might be on their crosses 6, 7 hours at a time.

Simonne also commented We’ll be higher up, I imagine. That’s going to hurt, a lot.

Amy was on her cross for Romana Crucifixa Est an entire afternoon with two cameras on her. Her feet were burned by the hot sun. Amy, Mila and Bea were on their crosses most of the afternoon too in Justine, the sun burned their skin, leaving white marks on the spots covered (protected) by the blood.