The Crowds Grow Impatient.
The crowds grow impatient. They want to see Justine brought to justice, they want to see her and her companions suffer the wrath of their lord and master, Monsieur Rodin. They want to witness the event and not loose one detail.
Are feet nailed?
svippo asks at the Crux Foundation
So when is it actually available???
624132
The one who identifies himself as 624132 demands from the same pages, while Phlebas proclaims to the world of Crux:
I like it
Phlebas
As I write this, JUSTINE is in the expert hands of Amy, who is looking it over, sending her comments to the director, Jac, for possible little changes to a shot here, a shot there. Jac has until Monday to make the changes and send the end result back to Amy. After that, he’ll be engaged going up a river, on a raft, a young woman by his side, in an adventure he’s already calling it Avila, The Wrath of God.
The GIMP forum explodes with a discussion of Nudity, centering in none other than Bea.
Hope Bea is totally nude, it goes against everything Vermeer represents!!! Damn it!!!!!!!!!!
Waylon
Waylon cries out from this pages. Bea looks down from her cross, the bleeding whip marks still fresh, the sun penetrating her soft skin, she does not say anything, the look in her eyes say it all.
A Canadian quotes Reine Margot:
Full nudity and torture in one movie can be a double edge sword. Sure, it may sell more copies in the less public arena, like this wonderful site, but it may be limited to how far it can go in more “mainstream” places like movie houses, film festivals, television and so on….
Reine Margot
to wonder:
Television? Seriously? I may have to bite the bullet and start subscribing to cable. I’d take the torture of partially nude Bea over endless reruns of The Big Bang Theory.
A Canadian
And he might get his wish… for cable to offer torture and nudity, total or partial, in a production that will bring it to people in the comfort of their homes. Although Television is but only one option from the many now available to watch our movies. You can download them, buy a DVD and you can even stream them from Vimeo. If you go to our site now to either download, buy more than one DVD you get a 30% discount! Imagine that. It’s so easy now.
Waylon begs of Bea,
Please be TOTALLLY nude!!!!!
Waylon
And Ralphus responds in that witty style of his
You can hope all you want, but I think you have 2 chances of seeing Bea’s pussy…slim and none. Every single still that Margot has released shows her lower portion wrapped up in a loincloth (or as Petelobo calls it, a diaper). I think it’s pretty obvious she won’t do full nudity, plus Margot dodged the question when I asked her directly, so there’s your answer right there. To which I say…no big deal. Would I prefer full nudity? Of course, and so would everyone else. But does it matter to the torture aspect of the story? That remains to be seen. If she can act and scream and suffer convincingly on film, I’ll likely be a happy camper. God knows she has the good looks, so we’re more than halfway there already.
Ralphus
Directing one amazing actress like Amy or Carmen on a film where she must be put through torture, lots of torture, is not an easy task. Directing TWO actresses on the same movie to be tortured over and over is twice as difficult. Directing THREE actresses to go through hell as the same time is three times as hard. So many possibilities. So many chances of fucking it up. So many opportunities for glorious shots…. and so little money and so little time. Those are the realities Jac had to face when making JUSTINE.
There’s the vision, sure, a grandiose vision, and there’s the actual work and the reality of the set, the equipment, the team and most importantly, the actresses who must perform those nasty actions over and over in front of the crew. But on top of it all, there is the creative aspect of it. The reasons why a scene is the way it is. What each character has to contribute to the story and what is her/his role in it. The sum of all these factors equals the end result in the scene. And that’s all that matters at the end. There will be a million different reactions to the film from a million different viewers… ok, maybe a few thousand. Will the film fulfill the fantasies or wishes of those few thousand viewers? Of course not. That never happens, ever… ever… never… not at all. Will the film have an impact on its intended audience? Yes, definitely.
Waylon insisted on his plight:
Thank you Ralphus for the feedback!!! Guess I’m kind of glad, I haven’t ordered Justine. I need to search the forum for Margot. Why would she play head games? Knowing what what most men want to see. After examining the Vermeer website, naught of total nudity just doesn’t corroborate with past releases..
Waylon
Lurker10 responded to his plight thus:
Margot is Vermeer Works publicity flack. As such it is her job to justify to you fanboys whatever the bosses have decided is necessary to maximize their income and other goals in the short and long term. Which are not your goals. If you’re into psychological torture, see how she writhes on the hot griddle of your frustrated perverted imaginations. Or maybe she’s laughing at you, because she’s inside and you are not. You could offer to be her replacement, but I doubt any of you have a thick enough hide for it, and would be too easily distracted.
Lurker10
I’m an insider, sure, but I’m not inside Amy’s head, or Mila’s, or Bea’s or Jac’s. I know what’s going on but not what goes on beyond what they let us see. A lot goes on there, really a lot. There are some small and big dramas being played in their real world. I’m the bearer of the news, the announcements, the promotions and I can respond to queries. Do I play with people’s heads. Not very likely. I’m definitely not laughing at anyone and I’m glad what I say has some weight. I haven’t seen the film. I haven’t seen the shooting of most of the scenes. I get the images that either Jac, Miguel or Amy had the time to process.
Most of the images of the Making Of were taken with Jac’s iPad and the “photographer” was either the gaffer during his time off when most in the crew sit there bored while the scene is recorded, or one of the assistants. Jac transfers those pictures to his computer and sends some of them to me. Amy, who did lost of selfies and gave Jac her iPhone to take some pictures, also sends a few to me, or she publish them in FB and I download those. So, to be honest, I have very little control on what to publish here or elsewhere. If anyone would be so extremely lucky as to do my job, they would be very frustrated not knowing a lot more of what goes on than I do.
lurker10, Thank you for feedback, as FREE SPEECH is Awesome! Not ill-intent toward Margot, just a query regarding an attractive young lady (actually two (2)) upon feedback received from fellow forum commentators. Pervert? I guess so, aren’t we living a progressive era? Peace!!!
Waylon
Queries are what this is all about and no, I don’t ever see ill-intent towards me. I see myself a little like CJ in The West Wing. Answering questions, delivering the news and struggling to get those who control the information, the producers/directors, to release enough for me to do my job and do it right. Sometimes I get ahead of myself and I might release something that was not meant to be known… yet. Sometimes I might express the general feeling or frustration I sense in the work. Sometimes I might express my own opinion, out of frustration for what I see as unfair and sometimes I might get over excited, in either case I find myself being chastised for what I said or did that was not proper.
lurker10 wrote: You could offer to be her replacement, but I doubt any of you have a thick enough hide for it, and would be too easily distracted. I’m not sure about the “thick enough hide” part (that kind of hurts my feelings smile ), but as far as “too easily distracted” goes, I’m sure that’s true.
A Canadian
I often wonder how the male members of our crew feel when we’re shooting the movies we make. Here they are, in front of beautiful women who are naked, or almost naked, suffering untold miseries at the hands of Jac… or Eric, and they can’t do anything about it except watch silently. Tough job. They can get easily distracted, for sure.
NEWS UPDATE. I have word that Amy and Jac had a long conversation after she saw the film. She loved it, however she came up with some smart suggestions and told Jac where she thinks the film needs some extra work. So… there will be more cutting in the next few days before Jac goes on his trip up the river in the Amazonian rain forest. I have word that there will be some extra work on the sound as well. More news about this later!
That’s it for now! I will return with more news about the release ofJUSTINE!
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