{"id":6121,"date":"2013-04-04T18:17:00","date_gmt":"2013-04-04T22:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/?p=6121"},"modified":"2025-05-16T18:39:33","modified_gmt":"2025-05-16T22:39:33","slug":"but-dreaming-is-coming-soon-and-so-many-other-things-to-talk-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/2013\/04\/04\/but-dreaming-is-coming-soon-and-so-many-other-things-to-talk-about\/","title":{"rendered":"But Dreaming is coming soon &#8230; and so many other things to talk about"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A year ago, around this time, we were done with the shooting of the first installment of what Jac hopes to make into a trilogy, our very own vampire epic <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the meantime we released <span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Maleficarum<\/strong><\/span>,<span style=\"color: #ff3366;\"> <strong>Le Marquis de la Croix<\/strong><\/span>,<span style=\"color: #00ccff;\"> <strong>Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> and all of that required a lo of work and dedication. Jac was editing a bit here, a bit there and finally, at the beginning of the year, he dedicated most of his time to cut <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Dead But Dreaming.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some days ago, maybe a month or so, he had a good first cut. He was ready to finish it. There was the matter of the music and the color correction, time consuming but nothing out of this world. But then he had a creative epiphany. He was reviewing the film when he felt that there was the need for a scene he originally planned for the first part but then decided to leave it for then second part. Now he felt that the film itself was demanding it and loudly. Oh the dilemma!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Amy was working on her script when Jac said those ominous words: &#8220;<em><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">we have to talk<\/mark><\/span><\/em>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/vermeerworks.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/VermeerWorksPic.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>It was during one of their regular walks downtown and back when Jac explained why he needed to shoot the scene now, and not later. &#8220;<em><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">I need it for this part<\/mark><\/span><\/em>&#8221; he said and presented his argument. Amy was surprised at first but she too agreed that it would be good, so they went into the planning of the shoot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first worry was the location. A far, far away place with an exotic, ancient, 57 BC look but with something that was necessary&#8230; electricity. Jac needs a night scene and for that he needs light equipment, and for the light equipment he needs electricity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Amy found a place that could be the right place. It was not too far from the city but far enough to be away from the madding crowds and sounds of busy La Paz. A vacation place, with interesting cabins to<br>house our cast and crew during the two day shoot, with meal service and best of all, electricity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/DBDreaming\/DBDLocation0326.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The next thing is the props and costumes and that&#8217;s when it begins to get really interesting. The most important prop in the scene is the cross. Jac has two ideas he&#8217;s been considering for a while and since he&#8217;s a libra and he likes them both, it was up to Amy to help him choose. The balance went for a Passolini style cross, the one he used in Medea, but with some modifications to fit the scene. One thing is sure, Mila will look amazing on that cross.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The cross will be constructed soon and Amy will be the one to put it together, she already has the technical specs. Erik is going to be documenting it all, he has to write about it as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/DBDreaming\/Medea01.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>While we prepare the shoot, we&#8217;re also beginning the promotion of <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>. We have a tentative date for the theatrical release of the film. July 16th, 2013. We might release worldwide the 4th of July. The details are still being worked out. We first need to make sure that the shooting of the scene goes as planned on May 11th and 12th, the location has been secured, and that the theaters and sponsors are all in place for the theatrical release. May will be a busy month. We&#8217;ll close the date<br>of release next week.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As part of the promotion we have our first teaser with part of the music, not the final music mix. Our composer is hard at work with that, but Jac used some of the initial tests for the music to cut a quick friendly teaser. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-vimeo wp-block-embed-vimeo wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"DBDTrailer\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/1085125972?dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">D. Santorum<\/span><\/strong> <em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">The risk of permanent harm is another matter altogether. I can&#8217;t remember whether it was Amy or Margot who told the story here a while back, but during the filming of the public whipping scene for Dead But Dreaming, the whip apparently landed on Amy&#8217;s face at one point (most definitely NOT part of the script). One can&#8217;t help being much relieved that it didn&#8217;t damage one of Amy&#8217;s pretty doe eyes. As the one who commissioned that very scene, had this (or some other serious harm) happened, I would have wanted to crawl into a hole, never to show my GIMPy face ever again.<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the way it happened, and not only once. While the main camera was shooting a nice shot of Amy&#8217;s back suffering the rigors of the whip, the camera we use for sound reference captured the moment. The whip is made of leather. If you look closely to Amy&#8217;s body you can see the welts that appear on her skin, specially on her legs and waist. So imagine the feeling on her face. She was not amused. By the movement of Eric&#8217;s body, you can tell that he really hit hard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/DBDreaming\/DBDCR1100175919.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">D. Santorum<\/span><\/strong> <em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">On the subjects of real versus fake discomfort\/pain, danger and risk, I&#8217;m in the camp of those who very much appreciate the notion of a GIMP actress suffering for her art. Yes, I like knowing that she&#8217;s REALLY feeling and flinching from the hot sting of the whip (or whatever). I like knowing there&#8217;s going to be some sore muscles and genuine welts on her skin afterwards. And for at least some actresses into this sort of stuff, this aftermath not only comes with the territory&#8230;it&#8217;s also part of their personal satisfaction with the experience. I can&#8217;t speak for Amy, of course, but she has at least hinted that this is true for her. <\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>There is no way of avoiding some suffering in the scenes we do. If Amy is going to be suspended by her wrists, her wrists are going to suffer the pain of her body pulling her down. There are ways of lessening the pain, but not of eliminating it completely. If she&#8217;s going to sit on the Spanish horse and her feet are going to be attached to weights, there&#8217;s no way of avoiding the discomfort. And so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It took years of practice to learn how to get away with the look of extreme suffering without causing any major damage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/Maleficarum\/Maleficarum0640.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Lynn<\/span><\/strong> <em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">My view about an actress enduring real pain while filming a scene: It is the responsibility of the entire film crew, starting with the director and ending with the construction crew, to ensure the safety of all participants and that of course means that no SERIOUS injuries occur. Beyond that, providing that she has the right to &#8220;quit&#8221; at any time, whatever the actress (or stunt-person) is willing to do, is her choice; and no one has to feel guilty about it.<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>There was one occasion during the shooting of <span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Maleficarum<\/strong><\/span> where there was some guilty feeling on the part of Jac and Eric. It was during the flogging on the horse that Amy didn&#8217;t look like she was acting. The feeling was that it was all too real. Amy had the power to quit at any time, yes, but she was not quitting, it was up to Jac to cry out CUT!, which he did. He stopped to shooting to continue the next day, after having a discussion with Amy about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/Maleficarum\/Maleficarum0632.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Lynn:<\/strong><\/span> <em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">in Goya&#8217;s Ghosts, they had to find a stunt double for Natalie Portman who&#8217;s shoulders were flexible enough so she could be hung off the floor nude (no possibility to use a hidden harness) in a strappado. And, yes, even for that flexible woman, it hurt! (somewhere I read an interview with the stunt-woman who did that, where she talked about her hardest jobs)<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I believe that the stunt woman that worked on <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Goya&#8217;s Ghosts<\/span><\/strong> was part of that famous acrobat&#8217;s ensemble <span style=\"color: #ffcc00;\"><strong>Cirque du Soleil<\/strong><\/span>. Their job is to do exactly that, contort their bodies in mid air for very long time. For us it would be expensive to hire someone from the <span style=\"color: #ffcc00;\"><strong>Cirque du Soleil<\/strong><\/span> to do some incredible stunts, so we&#8217;re left with the actresses themselves to pull out their stunts, to hang from crosses, to be suspended by their feet, like Camille in the Inquisition series, to be whipped, hanged, tortured, spiked, crucified, to be roasted over coals and to be burned at the stake. But always with the best of care, caution and precaution. It is the responsibility of the crew and those who build the torture instruments to make sure they are safe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/ViaCrucisofJane03Set07b.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5191\" srcset=\"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/ViaCrucisofJane03Set07b.jpg 800w, https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/ViaCrucisofJane03Set07b-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/ViaCrucisofJane03Set07b-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/ViaCrucisofJane03Set07b-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">D. Santorum <\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Margot: I think it&#8217;s great that you guys are looking into ways to encourage more funding help for future movies. If I may offer a suggestion for you to consider &#8211; how about some way for people to actually invest in a movie, as opposed to just forking over cash out of the supreme goodness of their hearts? In another words, build in some chance that we&#8217;d get part or all of our money back, and even perhaps share in the profits?<br><\/mark><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Amy responded to this question at length. But I can add something to what she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Crowdfunding vs Investors?. Investing in movies is as old as movies themselves, in fact, that&#8217;s what we do and to some extent so do most of our cast members. They invest time, talent and beauty in exchange of a share of the profits, something that can go on for years and years. Our producers directors invest all they have too. Having cash investors, however, is a more complicated issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One way to invest in films is to simply lay some cash on the table and get to own part of a movie and hopefully the movie will make enough money so the investor can recover the cash. But to accomplish this one must follow certain rules, most of which have to be put down on paper with the expertise of an attorney and that costs money. There are rules too, as to how many people can invest in a movie and those rules vary from country to country and from State to State.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s not a bad idea, but it&#8217;s not a simple idea. Crowdfunding, however, is the new kid in town. People interested in a subject, director, are invited to join in an adventure. The contributions can be as low as 10 dollars and as high as many thousand. Most of the people who put money into this prefer the 25 to 50 dollars input and in exchange they typically get a big thanks, a copy of the film when it comes out and whatever else the producers offer in exchange of that. In other words it works as a presale of the movie to the individual fan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As you all know, Amy is preparing a campaign for her next movie, <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><strong>Olalla<\/strong><\/span>, which will have some great GIMP scenes, particularly one where Amy will be flogged, chained to a cross and burned. Big pyre. That&#8217;s the plan. More details of this later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/Olalla\/OlallaImageFireINdiG5.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">D. Santorum<\/span><\/strong> <em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">In the case of Dead But Dreaming, I forked over a good wad of cash purely out of the overflowing goodness of my heart (well, actually it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a sick fuck who wanted to see<br>his ultimate whipping fantasy on film&#8230;but whatever). But the thing is, I would have invested even more had there been some chance I would get least some of the money back. I would have done so quite confidently, because I knew that if you guys even came close to reproducing the public whipping scene I had in my head, that it would get tons of attention and people would be tripping over themselves to buy it.<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, we do have the intention that when all is said and done and we see an overflowing amount on cash coming our way, we would, in fact, start sending some cash back to the individuals who helped make the scene &#8230; and movie, possible. But it&#8217;s different to share the blessings out of the goodness of our hearts than to have it down on paper giving a large part of the cash to an attorney or group of attorneys who then would comb through the paper work making sure that nothing has been overlooked and at 300 dollars an hour, on the cheap side, that&#8217;s a lot in attorney&#8217;s fees. But if the investment is high enough, then&#8230; call the attorneys!.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">D. Santorum <\/span><\/strong><em><span style=\"color: #66ffff;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-green-cyan-color\">Just a thought. Any by the way, we&#8217;re friggin&#8217; dying here waiting for a Dead But Dreaming trailer. \ud83d\ude42 <\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just in case you missed it above:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-video is-provider-vimeo wp-block-embed-vimeo wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"DBDTrailer\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/1085125972?dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, this is the end of my post. I hope I&#8217;ll have a lot to say in the next few weeks, specially when we shoot the scene for <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>. I will also have more teasers and trailers for the movie as well as pictures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The owners of the location have approved of their use, it&#8217;s all set for mid May. We&#8217;re working on the casting for the courtesans and philosophers who will participate of the <em><strong><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">Symposia<\/mark><\/span><\/strong><\/em>, a gathering of minds and bodies to indulge on the pleasures of the brain and the flesh. One such lady, a slave\/courtesan to be, is about to be freed during the night orgies, but she&#8217;s accused of stealing and her mistress swiftly condemns her to be lashed and to be nailed on the cross. That&#8217;s the sequence to be shot in may. More public lashing in <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span> and a nasty crucifixion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And so I leave you now with a picture from <span style=\"color: #66ccff;\"><strong>Barbazul<\/strong><\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img src=\"http:\/\/redfeline.com\/promos\/Barbazul\/Barbazul01205711.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">I&#8217;ll have more exciting news soon. <strong>Until then!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><span style=\"color: #ff99ff;\"><strong><em>Reine Margot<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A year ago, around this time, we were done with the shooting of the first&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3741,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[10],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6121"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6121"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6121\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6127,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6121\/revisions\/6127"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3741"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6121"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6121"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6121"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}