{"id":6051,"date":"2013-02-02T08:34:00","date_gmt":"2013-02-02T13:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/?p=6051"},"modified":"2025-05-04T15:41:13","modified_gmt":"2025-05-04T19:41:13","slug":"the-continuing-saga-of-barbazul","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redfeline.com\/chronicles\/2013\/02\/02\/the-continuing-saga-of-barbazul\/","title":{"rendered":"The continuing saga of Barbazul!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

I was preparing a post when Amy received the bad news about her father. There was a deep sadness from that moment on, one that continues and it will linger for sometime. Amy and Jac had a chance to see him when they were in the US last December. Amy was relieved to see that her father was in good hands, that the good people of the home where he was living were like family to him and that she had made the right decision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But still, there was sadness and some guilt as well. She was aware that the day would come within a short period of time because of the nature of his illness and that day came sooner than anticipated. With the grief came a bit of relief as well. He’s finally resting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Amy is in to the US to say her final good bye and to fulfill her role and take care of all that needs to be taken care off. She’s the only daughter and her father left her the legal power to take care of everything and she will. She’s the Heskinator and we’re sure she will accomplish all she’s set to do while carrying the grief for her loss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Life will go on and Amy’s memories of her father will surely inspire her and move her as she marches on with her projects. She will gain strength from her experience and she will continue to use all she learned
from him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While she carries on her mission in Maine, we’ll be doing our part here to continue with the work and the collective passion we all share. And this post is a part of the continuing work we all have.
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Amy will be posting sometime in the near future, she’s touched by the outpouring of feelings in this forum and Ralphus<\/strong><\/span> is right she’ll be touched to see all the nice responses from her friends, she’ll probably be hoping to read more bondage chatter, since this is why she hangs out here in the first place. This is why we’re all here<\/mark><\/span><\/em>.<\/mark><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

In that spirit, I now will post what I was planning before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I have bad news for Dr Yuya<\/span><\/strong> who is glad to hear the talk of Barbazul is about over in favor of Dead But Dreaming<\/span><\/em>. I don’t expect the talk of Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> ever be over, for as long as people watch it, gets to be screened theatrically at festivals or other outlets for such displays and for as long as people comment on it, critique it … Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> will be here, there, and everywhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In fact, Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> is under consideration in a good number of film festivals, there are some interviews coming up, and there won’t be a LAST WORD on this film, not at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Just as our previous releases still hold the attention of people everywhere, Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> will do the same.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A most recent comment about Barbazul mention’s Jac’s great screen presence.<\/em><\/span> And so it goes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We have Barbazul<\/strong><\/span> for the duration and we will be talking about it a lot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Is Dr Yuya<\/strong><\/span> <\/em>setting his expectations to high for Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>? He comments:…<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dr Yuya<\/strong><\/span> the use of a public whipping scene is all but unheard of in bondage movies. In fact the only time it usually ever happens is in mainstream movies and then it’s usually brief and forgettable<\/mark><\/span>.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I first need to clarify something. Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span> is not a “bondage<\/span><\/em>” movie and it’s not clear to me what defines the sub-genre of “bondage<\/span><\/em>” movies I think it falls better in the wider GIMP category.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span> has a very intense public whipping scene, as you all know. One that no one has seen… yet. Not even Amy. She saw bits here and there. The only person that saw it all is Jac. He’s editing his baby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know it’s intense because it took two days to shoot, four to five hours of shooting time every day. Lot’s of angles of the same scene where Amy had to go through the whipping in front of a group of people. But not only the actors and the crew were watching the scene. Part of the public were the workers, guards and execs of the Museum where the scene was filmed. A two day public whipping indeed … followed by a very intense public execution at a later day or two. This resulted in a massive amount of footage for Jac to edit down and make that scene as intense and unforgettable as it was for those who saw it live.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

All that spectacular work for a mainstream, vampire movie that will open in theatres and …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A Canadian<\/strong><\/span>: it’s always a good idea to keep your expectations in check. It’s better to have low expectations and be pleasantly surprised than to set high expectations and then find yourself disappointed<\/mark><\/span>.<\/mark><\/em> <\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I agree. It happens to everyone that goes to the movies wanting to see something and seeing something else. It’s a lot more common in people who would like to see good GIMP and guided by a poster or a picture they get a movie that is nothing like the poster promises. You’re all familiar with the feeling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I would advise the same. Don’t set your expectations high… don’t expect anything, just watch the movie and enjoy it… when it comes out, that is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We don’t have a release date, but I’m sure it will be before the Summer, the northern summer, that is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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D. Santorum<\/span><\/strong> was going down my awesome-as-always post, and he found himself lingering for quite a good while at the first pic of Veronica.<\/mark><\/span><\/em> <\/mark>My god she\u2019s beautiful.<\/mark> <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then it hit him. Veronica has a role in Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

D. Santorum<\/span><\/strong> Had I known way back when about Veronica (I knew of her, but wasn\u2019t really aware that she was still working with Amy and Jac), I might have asked for a somewhat different scene. Oh, it would have still been a severe public flogging to be sure. But look at that pic of naked Amy at the whipping post, and imagine a naked Veronica similarly tied to the opposite side of the post, facing her<\/mark><\/em><\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I’m not sure such scene, Amy and Vero together at the whipping post, would’ve made it to the script. The flogging scene, what comes before and what comes after is a large part of the story, if not THE essential part of the first part of this series. Yes, it is a series of at least three movies. However, anything can happen in the future, maybe even a scene as the one described by D. Santorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

One particular element in a vampire trilogy is that vampires can’t be killed just like that and if caught, at least in Jac’s conception of these characters, they can be made to suffer and for long periods of time. That, in essence, is the nature of the story and Jac’s mind. How to have your damsel in distress in extreme distress and still survive to see another distressful day. The question is how can Amy’s and Vero’s characters end up in the same place, a whipping post?.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Veronica will have her moment… and does have her moment in the first part of Dead But Dreaming<\/strong><\/span>. Early on. Actually, she has two moments in the first part.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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YikYakker<\/strong><\/span> After viewing Le Marquis de la Croix (three times), I\u2019ve become convinced that any true assessment of Mila must come from watching her in motion; still pictures really don\u2019t do her justice<\/mark><\/span><\/em>.<\/mark><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I believe that Mila is a great discovery. She’s full of unexpected resources when it comes to acting, not only the way she moves her hot and very fluid<\/span><\/em> body but how she translates emotions through her eyes and even her breathing. She also has her moments in Dead But Dreaming<\/span><\/strong>, in both parts. She’s obviously a nasty vampire but she also has her own pathos. Jac and Mila are again a couple, a nasty couple bent on doing something to Veronica, we don’t know what it is, but something not nice. However, sometimes these two don’t get along so well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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YikYakker<\/strong><\/span> For the final scene, Mila has to act like she is \u201cnailed\u201d to a patibulum raised above her and a platform at her feet. In truth, she is neither suspended nor supported by anything..<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

You might notice her hand in the picture below, her fingers gripping the nail in the palm of her bloody hand. I could say that what held her up and attached to the wood are those nasty nails.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

YikYakker<\/strong><\/span>. therefore, she has draw upon her own abilities to make the scene work. I really enjoyed the way she squirmed and leaned and moved her head.<\/mark><\/em><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Yes, her acting in this scene makes it work, in fact, it’s her acting that makes the entire movie work, like C. Dean Andersson puts it: <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mila Joya’s Zinga is poignantly believable as the helpless victim whose initial hope that she can escape public execution by surviving the Marquis’ private depredations slowly fades, forcing her to reluctantly accept that death alone awaits her, an end to all her hopes and dreams, an outcome not unlike that of the doomed protagonist at the end of DeSade’s Justine. <\/mark><\/em><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

It’s very hard to carry a movie on your shoulders. Le Marquis<\/strong><\/span> rests solely on Mila’s and Jac’s performance. It’s a chamber piece after all, and it’s a powerful chamber piece. Very different from those previous chamber pieces, the Red Feline<\/strong><\/span> productions, that were far more intimate, experimental and not big like now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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YikYakker<\/strong><\/span> Could it be that Jac favors the cane, as his implement of choice, over the cat?<\/mark><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jac favors the whip, he’s very, very conscious of what this instrument can do to a lady’s flesh, so he tends to be timid, I think. The cane is ok, but not his favorite. I know that for a fact.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ralphus<\/mark><\/strong> Amy being bound nude in Barbazul and then strangled nude in the movie is erotic but in the Boston Strangler’s real life he raped them then strangled them – NOT erotic. Hmmm…that’s a challenging statement. I think rape and strangulation are indeed erotic. Certainly there have been countless rape scenes in all kinds of movies. Suppose the Amy movie on Bluebeard was based on a true story? Bluebeard was fictional, but what if the film were based on the Boston Strangler? Would that make it less erotic, or not erotic at all? Certainly millions of women have been raped over the years in real life. Does that automatically disqualify every rape scene made on film afterward? Where do you draw the line?<\/mark><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Fiction and fantasy are based in reality or perceived\/imagined reality. Even Barbazul<\/mark><\/strong> the original story, is based on a real serial killer of old, as Amy pointed out before. In Dead But Dreaming<\/mark><\/strong>, Amy’s character is based in two women who suffered the same ordeal, public whipping and execution, in the 1800’s. In Maleficarum<\/mark><\/strong> Amy’s and Mila’s characters are based in real people who suffered the rigors of the inquisition, in fact, Amy’s character was the last person to be sentenced to die at the stake in Lima. And, like in the movie, there are rumors that she didn’t die. Jac’s performance in Barbazul<\/mark><\/strong> was inspired by Tony Curtis’ Boston Strangler<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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